“For [the theoreticians of photography] undertook nothing less than to legitimize the photographer before the very tribunal he was in the process of overturning.” -Benjamin, Little History of Photography
I want to explicate some of the issues I raised in the last post, address some of the comments, walk back my position on at least one point (yes you are all right the word “bad” was not a fair characterization), and dig in on a few others.To keep these posts stylistically similar let me again start with two observations.
1. One of the essays I most enjoy teaching in my media studies classes is Benjamin’s The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction. When teaching this essay I often begin the class by saying Benjamin understood why Ebert was wrong. That is Ebert, rather famously claimed that while video games might demonstrate a high level of craft, they will never rise to the level of art. Of course what Benjamin argued in The Work of Art, at the time in relation to photography, was that the question should not be “Is Photography Art?” but rather the more important question: “What does having photography do to our concept of art?” (By extension the question of video games should be what does having video games do to our concept of art.)
This is similar to how I think about the concept of digital humanities. I think we should not be asking, can the humanities be digital, or how does the digital allow or not allow us to do humanities, but rather, what does having the digital do to our idea of the humanities (and by extension what it means to be human). Anything short of this strikes me as less than interesting, but more importantly a missed opportunity.
2. Okay, I can tell I am really going to get in trouble for this one but . . .
The following is not originally my observation, I wish I could take credit for it as I generally agree and think it is really astute, but it’s not mine. (But I will let the original source remain anonymous as it was an “off the record conversation,” but if said person wants to claim it, I will note credit here.)
Generally speaking (painting really broad but accurate brush strokes here) Digital Historians, and Digital Literary Scholars have had significantly different approaches to incorporating “the digital” into their respective scholarship. Digital Historians have leveraged the digital to expand and engage a wider public in the work of history. As examples of this think of Omeka, or leveraging social media to engage in crowd sourced projects. That is, Digital Historians have often begun by asking “how does the digital allow us to reach a larger/public audience?” Now this could be because many of the folks working in Digital History come from a public history background . . . But in the case of literary studies the “digital” projects have not, as much, changed the scope of the audience. So that if you look at digital literary projects they often look remarkably similar to projects in the pre-digital era, just ones which have been put on steroids and run thru a computational process. Seems to me that the Digital Historian model is a better one.
Okay so onto the post. . .
I can’t help but notice that most of the talk, or at least critique, in the comments centers around the last paragraph, largely ignoring the analysis which led me to that paragraph. (To be fair I sort of invite this, saving my central and controversial claims for that section, but still . . .) That is, the early part of the post has as its supposition that “Universities are still valuing the wrong stuff,” and by Universities I mostly arguing about humanities scholars, but that’s only because the context was the MLA. When I look at what type of digital scholarship in the humanities is being recognized and valued by the institutions within which we operate it seems that that scholarship is mostly conservative, does little to question, upset, or threaten the dominant paradigms. And, that what I see to be as truly important work has yet to receive recognition. The fact that someone like Brian can be without a job and largely a “real nobody” while he is such a significant “virtual somebody” is just one example of this.
In his comment on the original post Tim Lepczyk suggests that a large part of the problem here is in defining what I, or anyone, means by the digital humanities, or humanities 2.0. I think this is spot on, and this is probably one of the most slippery parts of my argument, one I haven’t entirely worked out. As he points out there has been a certain amount of baggage from prior text analysis that is ported over in the upgrade to digital humanities. I definitely see humanities scholars as collaborating with computer scholars, IT folks, and people from a range of places within the academy and outside the academy. (Indeed one of my favorite presentations at the MLA addressed one particularly thorny aspect of this issue, @nowviskie’stake on intellectual property and labor in the age of collaboration.) But I think if what the digital does is just take the old disciplines and make them digital, leaving disciplinarity and the silo structure of the University in tact, it will have failed. I want to see the digital transform not just the content or practice of the disciplines, but the very idea of disciplinarity.
But, it is not entirely true as Brian Breman argues that I am advocating a “this changes everything,” approach to the digital humanities. In fact my major fear, the thing that keeps me up at night, is the idea that “this changes nothing.” Indeed that was the impetuous for the original post, despite the digital, nothing changes. It seems to me that the digital affords us (both as academics and as a wider members of a society) to do something really different, to re-organize many of the founding assumptions we have about how to organize knowledge, how to organize people, and even the nature of what it means to be human. But, I see us not necessarily taking advantage of this opportunity. In fact I see this as a fading opportunity, as our culture makes the “change over” from one intellectual substructure (dead tree) to another (digital network) it seems that we are porting over a host of prejudices about knowledge production and dissemination that are worth rethinking. (As just one example of this I think about intellectual property and knowledge ownership.) So, I would love if “this changes everything,” but unfortunately I think (as my original post claimed) that this has changed little, especially within the walls of academia. This is not to suggest that there are not some significant revolutions/projects taking place both within and outside of academia, but that a lot of what is being done/counting as digital scholarship does little to question the founding principles of academic knowledge production, especially within the field of “literary studies” (principles which we can at this moment, perhaps, but for a very short time re-negotiate).
On the most radical I’ll raise the question this way: The rate at which some of the digital scholarship has been so smoothly/effortlessly incorporated into the walls of the academia should perhaps give us pause to question whether or not it actually signals any change at all. Again to paint broad brushstrokes, but ones which I think are relatively accurate, scholarship tends to fall into two categories: 1. That which does little to call into question the walls of the ivory tower, or what is worse strengthens those walls, a digital humanism which would build an ivory tower of bricks and mortar and supercomputers crunching large amounts of textual data producing more and more textual analysis that seems even more and more removed from the public which the academy says it serves re-inscribing and re-enforcing a very conservative form of humanities scholarship. 2. A digital humanism which takes down those walls and claims a new space for scholarship and public intellectualism. Now while these two positions are not as mutually exclusive as I am painting them here I am more than willing to sacrifice the first for the sake of the later.
In the longest comment on the last post, @mkirschenbaum, suggests that when we think about the internet we need to think not about the Derrida of The Postcard or Of Grammatology, but rather the Derrida of Given Time. This is perhaps the most succinct phrasing I have heard of the problem. We spend too much time thinking about the structure of the link or data and not enough time thinking about the social relations and ethical questions opened up by this space.
And in this regard I agree with in part @sramsay’s comment that “new tools can facilitate a new type of public intellectualism.” The printing press was not just a faster version of the scriptorium, it was the “gadgets of the early modern period and the networks of communication in which they flourished” that changed the intellectual and wider cultural landscape. The printing press was not a mere tool by any means. But, it was precisely at the level beyond the printing press as gadget that I want to look, and to which I think we need to focus our efforts. On one level the printing press was just a gadget and the real, the important change, came at the level of the social negotiation about how that gadget would be deployed. Authorship, intellectual property, authority, piracy, etc. were all social/legal/cultural negotiations that occurred and were not decided at the level of the gadget, even if the gadget did speed up the rate of connectivity. If academic scholarship, just to take one example, says “what can I author now on the web,” without first calling into question the notion of “authorship” and recognizing the degree to which it might be heterogenous to the way knowledge can be organized on the web we will have missed a golden opportunity.
I think I should have been perhaps clearer, or not so glib in my paraphrasing of the question from my panel. I think to say that it was a “bad” question was wrong. What I should have said was that I think to answer the question straight up is not the most productive way to look at the problem. Instead by answering the question backwards, saying what if we thought about the “digital” as not merely an adjective (gadget to be applied to the humanities) but something much more, what does having the digital do to our conception of the humanities, seems to me the place we should place our focus.
And so this is where I am really going to dig in. @tanyaclement, correctly so, calls my analysis out, saying that like the MLA I am perhaps focusing too much on social media, “Clearly, there has been a lot of focus on “Digital Humanities” this year because of the rise of twitter and, as such, DH has now been associated with social media almost exclusively. This is unfortunate.” Where I am going to disagree with this is at the level of “unfortunate.” I think this is a fortunate thing (if only it were the case). The more digital humanities associates itself with social media the better off it will be. Not because social media is the only way to do digital scholarship, but because I think social media is the only way to do scholarship period. Yes it is true that there are hosts of scholars having scholarly discussions who are not on Twitter, but you know what, they better be, or they risk being made irrelevant. No this doesn’t mean that every scholar has to have a Twitter account, but it probably wouldn’t hurt, but it does mean that every scholar better be having their discussions in public on the web in these digital spaces for all to participate in.
I realize that this stance displays a certain amount of irreverence to the very people on whose shoulders which I stand in order to make this argument, but on the same time it displays a hyper-fidelity to their work, thinking about how it can be carried into this new digital substructure, used to shape this (perhaps) new way or organizing knowledge.
Yesterday this argument took a different sort of turn when Ian Bogost published The Turtlenecked Hairshirt: Fetid and Fragrant Futures for the Humanities. In part Bogost was weighing in on the question of Digital Humanities and its arrival, non-arrival, but was actually, it seems to me, making a much broader critique. Regardless, as he observes in the comments on the post, much of the discussion centers around a conflict between digital humanities and new media. Along these lines Matt asked if this is not just a debate over semantics, and perhaps less generously, a territorial pissing match. Throwing around the term “digital humanities” as an empty signifier, backlash against the digital humanities.
Let me be clear, I have no desire to engage in an academic territorialization argument. Honestly I couldn’t care less, having left an English department I am quite happy to not have to engage in those discussions. My position was a much larger one, addressing the question of whether or not “digital humanities” has arrived, and in a connected manner what this means for the future of the humanities. It appeared to me that much of the discussion at MLA was about the arrival of the “digital humanities” and in a related theme the extent to which this can serve as a “cure” (as Ian puts it) for what ails the humanities.
So let me put it a different way, maybe the digital humanities has arrived, maybe it is becoming central and important in the way that humanities scholars do their work, but the digital humanities that has arrived (the slow work that @tanyaclement mentions) is the kind of arrival that changes nothing, a non-event. The only type of digital humanities that is allowed to arrive it the type that leaves the work of humanities scholars unchanged. Seriously, don’t tell me your project on using computers to “tag up Milton” is the new bold cutting edge future of humanities, or if it is the future of the humanities it is a future in which the humanities becomes increasingly irrelevant and faculty continue to complain at boorish parties how society marginalizes them, all the while reveling in said marginalization, wearing it as a badge of honor which purportedly proves their superiority on all matters cultural.
As Ian observes, “It’s not “the digital” that marks the future of the humanities, it’s what things digital point to: a great outdoors. A real world. A world of humans, things, and ideas.” That is what I was after in my original post, the idea that the digital that I am hoping for, hoping will challenge and change scholarship hasn’t arrived yet, for all the self congratulation about the rise of the digital, little if anything has changed. Humanists are still largely irrelevant in the broader culture discussions, and it seems to me purposely chose to remain so.(Actually I am not certain the degree to which this is really about “literary” humanists, as it seems this issue plays out differently in history. But that might just be the perspective of an outsider.)
And this is the brilliance of Brian’s paper (content not withstanding) he made his material more relevant than all the other papers that weren’t published, he engaged the outside (even if it was a paper that was a lot of inside baseball on the workings of the academy) because he opened his analysis and thinking to a wider audience (and as @amandafrench and @bitchphd remark did it with a real-time spin that enhanced at both the level of content and delivery). Again The real influence should be measured by how many people read his paper, who didn’t attend the MLA. Or maybe, the real influence of his paper should be measured by how many non-academics read his paper. Scholars need to be online or be irrelevant, because our future depends upon it, but more importantly the future of how knowledge production dissemination takes place in the broader culture will be determined by it.

In which I walk back my previous argument some, but dig-in elsewhere. http://bit.ly/87GG6B More on DH & New Media.
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In which I walk back my previous argument some, but dig-in elsewhere. http://bit.ly/87GG6B More on DH & New Media. (via @academicdave)
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Digital rhetoricians, pls speak up
@academicdave’s second attempt to explain why DH doesn’t matter yet, but should. http://bit.ly/87GG6B
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provocative argument for the imperative of public, culturally relevant scholarship – http://bit.ly/87GG6B – by @academicdave
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new post by @academicdave – http://bit.ly/87GG6B – makes me wish dig hist would criticize scholarship of old school historians like this
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There go my plans to Make Money By Working From Home!!! today. Reading @academicdave’s “Be Online or Be Irrelevant”: http://bit.ly/5tLV10
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I couldn’t agree with you more on the need to engage in more public forms of scholarship. It’s easy to take blogs and Twitter for granted now that they have become a part of the digital everyday. But I think it’s their ordinariness that makes them such useful forms for knowledge sharing.
A point that isn’t expressed directly here is that such engagement allows for more useful dialogue between people with related forms of knowledge. In media studies, for example, we benefit considerably from engaging with industry people who are often working through similar “problems” in thinking about aesthetics, textual forms, representation, or whatever.
Brian’s MLA paper is obviously a useful example and especially given the resonance it had outside the MLA. As delegates we can pass a thousand resolutions condemning the hiring of adjuncts or whatever, but Brian’s blogged talk had a timeliness and material form that made it effectively reach a number of people outside of the MLA.
Please allow me to offer two reference. Two years ago I wrote about how the work of historians was not showing up in Google search results, but Google is where the general public is going for information, even the informed general public. See When Google Gets It Wrong. Also back in 2008, Kevin Levin of Civil War Memory observed that all his posts about black Confederates were finally paying off, because his myth-busting posts were finally starting to show up in Google rankings. Unfortunately, he is the exception. Perhaps not coincidentally, he also teaches high school and perhaps feels a stronger need to communicate with the general public. I know my own mainstay as an adjunct professor of history, Western Civ (a required gen ed course), also forces me to deal with lots of students who do not share any of the academy’s assumptions. I do notice, however, an increasing number of younger historians willing to write about history on blogs. Most of us, however, talk about the need for such a project instead, myself included.
Home run by @academicdave on the kind of digital humanities worth celebrating http://bit.ly/8coOco
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For me, the power of the digital humanities is more about how it can transform pedagogy than how it can transform scholarship. This pedagogical potential of the digital humanities seems to be missing from the recent discussions — but in a sense, it’s not missing at all. The way Brian’s paper has outlived most anything actually presented at the MLA is in fact a pedagogical phenomenon. Giving life to challenging ideas that thrive beyond our classroom walls and convention halls is what it’s all about.
First, I want to say that I agree *completely* with the main argument you’re making here. The larger crisis in the humanities is the real problem, and I understand your impatience. If the “digital humanities” does nothing but re-inscribe the old ways, then so what? I also think you’re basically right about digital history and its debt to the earlier public history movement (one of the most instructive failures in the history of history, if I may say, but that is another topic).
But I still want to push back against your characterization of gadgets. When you say this:
you’re echoing what I consider the founding insight of Media Studies; namely, McLuhan’s idea that what is important about a medium is the “change of scale or pace or pattern that it introduces into human affairs.” You are right to want to focus your attention here. It is hugely important for understanding our technological moment and its impact.
But you still need to build these media. You still need people to do the kind of work that I think you find slightly dull — the text analysis, the XML encoding, the GIS work, the thematic research archives, the word clouds, the authorship attribution, the stylometrics, the surveys.
I think, in fact, that this is precisely what distinguishes Media Studies from Digital Humanities. DH is about building things. Media Studies is about theorizing the built.
And here, we can see all the lineaments of a fight. The problem with DH is that it is “undertheorized” — or, to choose an even more vicious curse, “conservative.” The problem with media studies is that it is too divorced from the realities of programming and engineering, and that *it* does nothing but apply the same old literary theorizing to the digital.
I think both are wrong and unfair. The reason you’re getting so much heat, is because you are, in effect, blaming the gear heads for not rescuing the humanities, and subtly implying that the media studies approach would do this more successfully. I’m just not sure I agree with that; or at least, I’m not ready to say that hacking things isn’t just as likely to transform medium into message as talking about it.
Brian’s absent-presence at MLA was a brilliant intervention, but it’s often in the nature of (brilliant) interventions that they’re not repeatable.
Reading @academicdave’s, Be Online or Be Irrelevant: http://bit.ly/8coOco
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Don’t miss @academicdave’s newest post about the need to “Be Online or Be Irrelevant”: http://bit.ly/87GG6B.
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@Matt: It isn’t? There go my plans for #mla11 and #mla12.
When I’ve been asked about the Digital Humanities at job interviews over the last year (yes, I had a few of them), I’ve made the argument that what matters most is this public presentation of scholarship. It is not that it is online that matters so much; rather it is the fact that it is suddenly accessible to thousands of readers who would never find my dissertation, articles, or (future) books. After all, the paygates that guard databases/scholarship (and at some point, these two have converged in striking ways) mean that you have to have academic library privileges to even really start searching for these records. (Hell, to even get in the door at my alma mater’s library, you have to have an ID.) Google Scholar is making inroads, but isn’t quite there yet.
Now, it’s of course a spurious argument that only the Digital Humanities are online. But it is true that they tend to be there. And that this means that they can be found. Moreover, when there is the chance that your work could be read by a larger audience, one tends to write/craft it a little bit differently. Visualizations that become possible are even more helpful. I can’t really expect many people to read my dissertation in its current state. That’s partly due to my own writing, but it’s partly due to most people not knowing how to read dissertations. Many more people know how to read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Graphs-Maps-Trees-Abstract-Literary/dp/1844670260"graphs, maps, and trees. And if we can make our work more easily understood by a larger audience, then we no longer need to have so many conversations about how or why the humanities are relevant. Because we make them so by opening them to others. Down with the priesthood and up with the public!
From @sramsay in response to @academicdave: digital humanities builds things, Media Studies theorizes the built. http://bit.ly/8DOuuk
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rethinking dig hum convo; @academicdave’s recent post http://academhack.outsidethetext.com/home/2010/be-online-or-be-irrelevant/
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@Steve, I like the point you make about building things versus theorizing things. There are many philosophical directions to take this (I’m thinking Heidegger’s “Building Dwelling Thinking” or the ontology of objects that Ian Bogost has been writing about lately), but I have more practical (and not at all facetious) question: how big do the things we build have to be before they count as digital humanities? How substantive? The printing press is a misleading example, because it was of course hugely transformative. But what about small tech? A blog? Or even a bunch of photos scanned and put online? Does there need to be some kind of scaffolding put around modest projects before they become digital humanities work? Or does digital humanities just happen?
Thanks for the fabulous posts and thoughtful comments.
I am particularly taken with the point you make about digital humanities as a means to break problematic structures of the academy. The structures are the biggest hurdles, it seems, to moving ahead with digital work. The academic system–from tenure to unit formation–is near impossible to rework internally. We have been trying to develop a new Institute for Digital Humanities, Media, and Culture here at Texas A&M that moves across disciplinary boundaries and allows for the very work that you laud. The participants involved understand the concept, have begun to develop research groups to enact the projects, we have governance plans in place, but finding a space for our structure within the existing walls of academia is much more difficult. We are making some progress (funding), but it is incremental.
I’m also taken by Steve’s comment about the split between dh and nm. I agree that dh has traditionally been very applied, which seems to be a strength. And we have certainly theorized individualized works, tools, and projects. I don’t believe, though, that we have successfully theorized the larger body of “digital humanities” work. Had we done so, we might have a clearer understanding of, say, the difference between digital history and digital literary studies. I think we are starting to see younger scholars who define themselves as digital scholars produce such work in part because they are caught within the academic structure of tenure (ie write the print book). To keep their job these scholars write book length examinations of the theory driving the applied in a broadly defined dh field (Steve’s forthcoming book on the Illinois series). I applaud this work and hope to see more it in the future.
Let me enter the fray here. While I agree that “Digital Humanities” offers a way to publicize, engage and become part of the outside world, I have to take issue with the tagging of a Milton text. As Steve has already so eloquently pointed out, the tools also offer a way into literary Humanities in a way that has never been explored. Case in point: as a textual scholar and book historian, I’m intrigued by the way the medium has managed the message, especially in the nineteenth-century when the Industrial Revolution demanded providing cultural materials to a larger public. The public (and here I mean the middle class and eventually some of the working class) did not remain mere receptors of cultural materials. Instead, they insisted on contributing and/or creating their own materials. Letters to editors, found poetry, essays by women — all of these categories are essential to the study of nineteenth-century British literature. But, and here’s the kicker, these materials have been and still are marginalized by our contemporary Humanities. Yes, many New Historicists have come out of the closet since Montrose and others heralded the open-ended definition of a “text,” but that fight is still ongoing. There are not sufficient amounts of digital material to assess a distant reading of anything but the very canonical authors in the Romantic and Victorian period. For this reason, we (and I mean, “I”) am still fighting with the canon. And, this is true of many English Departments in the U.S.
To combat this, I’m still struggling to digitize, tag, mark-up (with deep poetic elements), scan and edit over 30,000 pages from books that really mark the economic value of poetry, and more explicitly, women’s poetry. Eventually, the project should have enough critical mass to start making claims (and visualizations) about the interaction between women poets and the canonical authors — you know, those studies that are well-funded and highly valued. But, there is never enough money, nor is there enough labor. And, yes, to build this archive requires editorial intervention — textual theory. The funding institutions of late have left behind this type of “old” Digital Humanities project because it’s not innovative enough. But we haven’t solved the problem of how to do this. However, in the Romantic & Victorian periods, big canonical authors are getting funding (well, most likely because they are better grant writers!).
This brings me to the final point, and bear with me. My project is important to a small set of scholars. It could become more relevant to others once we get it hooked into the NINES Collex. However, I exist at a teaching institute where students really struggle just to pay for their classes. Our special collections is almost non-existent, nevermind them trying to touch a nineteenth-century text unless it’s one from my collection. My archive attempts to present them with the entire book: bindings, engravings, table of contents, leather-bound covers. All of it! Surprisingly, they love it. As English majors, they all want to fondle an original instead of look at the digital rendering, but it’s the next best thing. Now, after I get them interested — because my students’ questions are really what drive my research — we need a deeper understanding of the medium/genre. This is where the digital tools come into play. They ask research questions about the existing 3000 pages that I have yet to answer or to even contemplate. Imagine what we could do if the entire Archive were visualized across the century or TEI tagged down to the couplets? Then, they could use the Prosody Machine or TaPor to assess the technical aspects of the writing. What then? How is it relevant to the jobs that they must obtain after college? Are any of them interested in the educational shifts? (Yes; we credential a large portion of Northern California’s English teachers.)
This is a longish way to say that the “old” Digital Humanities is relevant. We may be arguing about what to call ourselves, but our scholarship and tools have yet to trickle down into the pedagogical realm in any adequate fashion. I’ve read/heard a small subset of Digital Humanists state that if you don’t write code, then you aren’t a Digital Humanities scholar. I don’t write code (aside from my artisanal HTML) but I can dream it and then collaborate with a New Media scholar to talk about things that I haven’t even dreamed yet. That’s the most invigorating part of Digital Humanities! (dare another few exclamation points here!!!) I’ve been thinking a lot about the Scott McCloud video, “Did You Know” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL9Wu2kWwSY) about the progress of information; it highlights the fact that we’re training students to answer questions we don’t even know exist yet. I’ve covered some of this stuff in my MLA talk and will revisit the disappointments of DH in a C19 talk this May (consorting with a bunch of Americanists).
Here’s one last thing: Did anyone read the New York Times Magazine article on Agatha Christie, “Literary Alzheimer’” (http://www.nytimes.com/projects/magazine/ideas/2009/)? The article discusses Christie’s descent into dementia. She was a very private person so the researchers resorted to textual analysis of her novels. The last few were less descriptive and diminished in variations on word choice, both of which are signs of dementia: “Though some of her biographers have suspected as much, actual evidence was advanced in March by a research team led by Ian Lancashire and Graeme Hirst, professors at the University of Toronto, in a paper called ‘Vocabulary Changes in Agatha Christie’s Mysteries as an Indication of Dementia.’”
The article never mentions what text analysis tool was used! And there are some issues with the digitized texts (they relied on Project Gutenberg for some). But, the impact is clear: the digital tools were used to answer an interesting question about dementia in creative authorship. What’s the great outdoors impact here? We can only imagine.
This is a must-read post, and makes me feel better about some of my own impatient screeds. I’m working on a review of digital Shakespeare(s) right now that makes largely the same points.
Two quick points: crucially related to this is the “projectification” of DH. As something that starts to look like a field coalesces, its outcomes are turned into products built along an artificial timeline dictated by funding institutions — in contrast with the kind of curious, creative, methods-and-practices driven approach you’re focusing on. (In fact, the social media points seem like a distraction — perhaps it’s more about products vs. methodologies.) Second, with the exception of work being done in rhetoric (a crucial exception!!), few self-identified DH scholars are actually producing scholarship using digital media. I bitched about this a lot while doing my born-digital MS at MIT — an institution that pioneered DSpace, and yet refused to accept my web-based work for its archives. (I ended up printing and submitting the code to the libraries, all 460+ pages of it.)
An eloquent response to many different kinds of comments. I tend to agree with many of the changes @academicdave is arguing for–I think most of your readers do. You are arguing for a more open (and productive) conversation between academics and non-academics: agreed. You are arguing for DH to focus more on looking at how we do scholarship instead of a reconstitution of the same way we have always done scholarship: agreed. You are arguing for a discussion around DH that goes beyond gadgetry and broadens into a larger discussion about the production and dissemination of knowledge: agreed. I think most of us have written about each of these topics in some way. But why discount the slow work, the dull work, the “uninteresting” question of an audience member, the kind of DH work that will not get that many eyes either on a blog or on Twitter?
It’s great fun to read a call to arms and to call each other out and read responses. It’s a blast. But does the subtext of this conversation become that DH work must be Twitter-worthy or be irrelevant? And what does that mean? Should humanities scholars pick their research topics based on how many hits they might get on their blogs? How many retweets?
Sure, scholarship should be exciting, relevant to non-academics, and change the world — agreed, agreed, agreed. But, I think we all know that there has been dull scholarship alongside this work that someone or some few found interesting that has changed the world . . . albeit, slowly.
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@Brian: just to clarify, I was responding direct to Mark S., but Steve’s longish post popped in between.
Re: “tagging up Milton”: that’s my phrase I’m afraid, and as I made clear to Dave when I used it in the course of a tweet it was intended to conjure the *caricature* of how digital humanities are being depicted in some quarters of this multi-channel discussion. So I’m a bit confused as to why it appears at face value in the post above. It’s certainly not a flattering way of thinking about the sum total of our self worth, though I for one wouldn’t want to live in a world where there weren’t one or two lonely Miltonists scratching their heads somewhere over their install of oXygen.
Interesting comments by Kathy Harris at akademhack: http://bit.ly/6TZtkR
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Really excellent comments by @triproftri at @academicdave’s latest blog post http://bit.ly/59Ja2y
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Matt, I saw your tweet but took it as its intended tongue-in-cheek. However, in my post above I was responding in general to this idea (from other conversations) that mere tagging is no longer considered Digital Humanities. You’re right, it’s not the sum total of Digital Humanities, but it’s been left behind of late.
@Kathy: sorry, by “post above” I meant Dave’s original. Clearly I’m typing with two left feet in my mouth today on teh internetz.
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A pertinent and useful discussion of the position of digital humanities: http://bit.ly/8coOco
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If you haven’t yet read @academicdave’s new post, you should: http://bit.ly/7Bp1O9
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“Not because social media is the only way to do digital scholarship, but because I think social media is the only way to do scholarship period.”
This hyperbole eschews, if not elides, any kind of archival scholarship that cannot be performed outside of non-lending research libraries/archives. In other words, you might want to qualify and/or re-think your usage of the word “scholarship” in the latter half of the above quotation.
As one who develops conference websites, moderates academic listservs, uses Moodles, co-edited Romantic Circles Reviews online book reviewing journal, and engages in Facebook and Twitter, I whole-heartedly support digital scholarship, including publishing dissertations online, for example. However, social media such as Twitter and Facebook are currently unable to replace or replicate the exacting kinds of textual and literary scholarship that is ongoing in places like The Folger, Bodliean, British, Beinecke, and Huntington Libraries around the world.
@Charles. Actually I think the error is not in the word scholarship but the limited definition of social media, something I should have made clearer in the post. All of the examples you list I would count as “social media” as long as they are not behind a firewall. Social Media for me is not just Twitter & Facebook.
Highly recommended & right on target re: digital humanities: @academicdave, “Be Online or Be Irrelevant”: http://bit.ly/8coOco
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Very recommended & right on target re: digital humanities: @academicdave, “Be Online or Be Irrelevant”: http://bit.ly/8coOco (via @dancohen)
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I appreciate the expansion of your thinking, but two things trouble me. One is your rejection of disciplinarity; as someone who does interdisciplinary work but with both feet firmly planted in a specific discipline (history) I can say that all knowledge is not identical, nor does it stem from the same sets of assumptions, or the same sets of questions – and there is value in that. Indeed, for me, the value of an inter-disciplinary approach is the interaction of different perspectives; if you collapse all scholarship into a discipline-less void, then you paradoxically lose what makes interdisciplinary work worth doing.
The other is that, still, I don’t have a clear sense of what “digital humanities” entails, and how, precisely, it differs from “humanities.” Is it subject matter? Is it analytical tools? Is it mode of dissemination, or what? Could one write about digital communication in “dead tree” format and still be considered to be doing “digital humanities”? Or is the medium more important, in which case it would make sense to just call it “humanities” – or is it some combination thereof? When someone says “cultural history” I can picture the sort of scholarship they engage in, as I can when someone says “rhetoric” or “political anthropology” or “science studies.” But “digital humanities”… it’s both too broad and not broad enough. If an article from 20 years ago is scanned in, is that considered to be a form of “digital scholarship”? Is it medium, topic, tools, or a combination of all?
Put another way – can I, as a historian of a time period before computers, be a said to be a “digital scholar”? I use computers in my work… does that count? Do I have to blog about it? Do I have to use twitter in my teaching? Is Blackboard enough, or not?
Right now I’m seeing a lot of talk about potential, but not much specificity.
The digital transformation: Be online or be irrelevent at academhack: http://bit.ly/8coOco
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I’d like to echo Brian Croxall’s point about access, though perhaps I speak out of turn. I’m a member of that larger audience — the majority of the public with no connection to the academy beyond perhaps a bachelor’s degree earned in the previous century. The kind of Digital Humanities work you deride as not having expanded the scope of the audience has in fact exposed traditional scholarly resources that were utterly invisible to the broad public before the Internet and the digitization movement. These “conservative” endeavors–and frankly, digitization probably isn’t the kind of revolutionary activity you yearn for–have made the humanities a part of my daily life.
Whether the digitization originated within academia (TEAMS, Perseus), industry (Google Books, Ancestry.com), or religion (CCEL, NewAdvent), it has made questions answerable in a way they never were in previous years. I am now able to compare translations of Herodotus in a blog post or cite the Apostolic Fathers in an e-mail argument, neither of which would have happened before. Admittedly, such things would have been accessible twenty years ago — provided I were willing to take time off work or arrange childcare, drive to the closest research library which would deign to let me in, and spend several hours sorting through finding aids and manually transcribing from print. You’re certainly aware of the costs of research pre-digitization (though perhaps some of your readers are not aware of the costs to those neither affiliated with a university nor able to conduct their research within standard working hours), and likely question the value of making some random blog post more informed. But without the easy access that comes with mass digitization, such informal conversations would never deserve the effort required to research something so trivial. For an ever-increasing proportion of the public, facts are knowable in ways they have never been before. This may not transform anything at all within academia, but it is utterly transformative to the non-academic public, and I believe that it holds potential to incrementally transform the relationship between that public and the academic humanities.
“Be Online or Be Irrelevant” http://bit.ly/87GG6B
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“Be Online or Be Irrelevant” — excellent post by @academicdave: http://bit.ly/87GG6B
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An astute comment on the digital history movement http://academhack.outsidethetext.com/home/2010/be-online-or-be-irrelevant/
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@Rana
That’s because this whole thing is new to you, but it is not new to hundreds of others who move in a concrete set of communities that has existed for decades. For these people, your questions sound mildly ridiculous. It’s as if, having never heard of a field called “physics,” you walked in a room full of physicists and started saying, “So what’s this? Something about “forces?” I don’t know . . . maybe there’s some potential here, but it all sounds kind of vague.”
I hope you’ll excuse us if we don’t drop everything to explain ourselves to someone who, having made almost no effort to find out what it’s all about, proceeds to tell that we’re not ready prime time.
Steve, no need to be insulting. Remember, I’m probably a typical representative of the cohort of people that you need to persuade in order to move digital humanities into the sort of position of influence you’re envisioning.
You – and others like you – spend a lot of time talking about how digital humanities is a game-changer, the wave of the future, the way that scholars will communicate with the general public about what they do… and yet you don’t really explain HOW.
If you’re going to have conversations in public, then you need to expect to field questions from the interested but inexperienced. I’m not a complete newbie, after all – I’ve been blogging since 2003, have multiple web profiles on a number of sites, am actively present on Twitter, use computers in my research and pedagogy, am an early adopter of Googlewave, maintain a flickr account and an online gallery, and so on. And yet your reaction to my quite reasonable question – what exactly is the nature of your project, and how is it to be explained to those not already in the know – is to treat me with disdain and irritation.
Hell, even a link to “Here let me google this for you” that pointed in the right direction to a few useful “digital humanities 101″ posts would have been better than this response. If digital humanities is about educating the public about the nature of your scholarship, your response is a piss-poor effort, giving the impression that this, like the rest of academia, is a land where outsiders are not welcome, and only those who have jumped through the hoops and been properly indoctrinated are allowed to participate. Seems an awful lot like the sort of culture that digital humanities advocates claim to be against, no?
No wonder digital humanities is having trouble getting traction among the establishment, if this is how you treat the interested but sceptical. Nice job, dude.
It seems I’m not the only one feeling left in the dark:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Digital_humanities
Rena,
The Blackwell Companions are almost always good intros to a topic. The one for DH published several years ago is, appropriately enough, available in its entirety online for free:
http://digitalhumanities.org/companion/
See also the related volume on Digital Literary Studies:
http://www.digitalhumanities.org/companionDLS/
@academicdave: “every scholar better be having their discussions in public on the web” http://bit.ly/8coOco
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Rana and Steve —
Personally, I’d say the discipline of English is at least as difficult to define as that of Digital Humanities, so the fact that there’s an ongoing discussion about how to define DH isn’t proof of anything in particular to me. Is a literary critic defined by her objects of study? Her method? Her purpose? The channels through which she disseminates her work? I don’t think those questions have ever been resolved, and yet the discipline continues to exist.
I did find your questions “mildly ridiculous,” Rana, but I certainly understand why you’re insulted by Steve’s response. Using Blackboard definitely doesn’t make someone a digital humanist, but subjecting Blackboard to rigorous critical study does. Similarly, listening to Madonna doesn’t make someone a cultural critic (it would be mildly ridiculous to ask whether it does), but subjecting Madonna to rigorous critical study does.
Here are a couple of Digital Humanities 101 resources: first, the definitions from the “Day in the Life of the Digital Humanities” project undertaken by TAPOR: http://tapor.ualberta.ca/taporwiki/index.php/How_do_you_define_Humanities_Computing_/_Digital_Humanities%3F — the participants’ descriptions of their days is also immensely useful, though more time-consuming: http://tapor.ualberta.ca/taporwiki/index.php/List_of_Day_of_DH_Participants (I remember I spent that whole day writing a syllabus for a course called “Creating Digital History,” for instance.)
Second (or third, or 2B, or whatever), here are the abstracts from the Digital Humanities 2009 conference: http://www.mith2.umd.edu/dh09/index.html%3Fpage_id=99.html Browsing through that would be a good way to get a sense of what activities are considered scholarship in the Digital Humanities. See also various resources at http://digitalhumanities.org/.
With respect for both Rana and Steve (and for Dave who may not have wanted his provocation to head so far down some of these paths), I do think there’s an interesting issue with the past of digital humanities, and the role of story-telling in community formation. There are certainly conversations and bodies of work that go back decades, but at the time weren’t they more likely to be called “humanities computing”? The term “digital humanities” has widened the community and brought in conversations that themselves already had histories. Labels do matter, and “digital humanities” does different work and fosters community in a different way from “humanities computing.” The invention of digital humanities from humanities computing seems under-narrated. I don’t know if there are good reasons for that, but not all the effects are good. Googling won’t always turn up the interesting silences, but they can sometimes matter anyway.
@Rana,
You might also want to read Patrik Svensson’s “Humanities Computing as Digital Humanities” in Digital Humanities Quarterly. See: http://is.gd/6afB0
The article that Brett cites is indeed a very good exploration of the move from humanities computing to digital humanities.